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	<title>Comments on: A Measurement of and Testament to How Far We Have Come</title>
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		<title>By: Emily Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 01:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nancy,
  
My sense is that while a small number, all of the independent consultants in attendance found a way to engage in good conversations with others, and that each of us in our own way was able to continue to break down the barriers that have existed for too long.

I hope other members will work within their own communities to bridge the gap, making it easier for those who will follow us -- but  most importantly, making it  better for all the students we work with.

Emily</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nancy,</p>
<p>My sense is that while a small number, all of the independent consultants in attendance found a way to engage in good conversations with others, and that each of us in our own way was able to continue to break down the barriers that have existed for too long.</p>
<p>I hope other members will work within their own communities to bridge the gap, making it easier for those who will follow us &#8212; but  most importantly, making it  better for all the students we work with.</p>
<p>Emily</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Snyder</title>
		<link>http://www.iecaonline.com/blog/2010/04/30/a-measurement-of-and-testament-to-how-far-we-have-come/#comment-1016</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 01:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathie,

I can safely say you are not alone in your feelings!  As you know, how we can reach out to better collaborate with school counselors has been THE topic of discussion during our College Committee meetings.  

During my term as Chair, the Standing Committee members thoughtfully reviewed proprosals from members on ways to improve relationships, always mindful of two things:  1) variances in how consultants are perceived, and; 2) that whatever we recommended would need to be general enough to not ignore those differences but specific enough to be useful to all members. 

IECA has done an outstanding job of outreach nationally; the time has come to help members reach out individually at the grass roots level.  The next Chair is set to continue the dialogue with the membership and to work towards providing some guidance that members would find helpful.

I hope you will continue to educate others about what it is we really do, dispelling the myths and demonstrating our professionalism and desire to work with others; and I hope others will join you in this effort.  

Emily</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathie,</p>
<p>I can safely say you are not alone in your feelings!  As you know, how we can reach out to better collaborate with school counselors has been THE topic of discussion during our College Committee meetings.  </p>
<p>During my term as Chair, the Standing Committee members thoughtfully reviewed proprosals from members on ways to improve relationships, always mindful of two things:  1) variances in how consultants are perceived, and; 2) that whatever we recommended would need to be general enough to not ignore those differences but specific enough to be useful to all members. </p>
<p>IECA has done an outstanding job of outreach nationally; the time has come to help members reach out individually at the grass roots level.  The next Chair is set to continue the dialogue with the membership and to work towards providing some guidance that members would find helpful.</p>
<p>I hope you will continue to educate others about what it is we really do, dispelling the myths and demonstrating our professionalism and desire to work with others; and I hope others will join you in this effort.  </p>
<p>Emily</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Griesemer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Griesemer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily,

I&#039;m really encouraged to hear about your recent experiences.  My last participation in a PCACAC conference was very lonely and discouraging.  Although I maintain membership, I haven&#039;t been back since.  It really sounds as if attitudes are changing, and I&#039;d like to be front and center in Mark&#039;s movement to &quot;Make Ourselves Heard&quot;!

Thanks for the update.

Nancy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really encouraged to hear about your recent experiences.  My last participation in a PCACAC conference was very lonely and discouraging.  Although I maintain membership, I haven&#8217;t been back since.  It really sounds as if attitudes are changing, and I&#8217;d like to be front and center in Mark&#8217;s movement to &#8220;Make Ourselves Heard&#8221;!</p>
<p>Thanks for the update.</p>
<p>Nancy</p>
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		<title>By: Kathie Carnahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathie Carnahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily,

Thank you for your sharing your thoughtful comments and observations. The dynamics between Independent Ed Consultant with both high school counselors and college admissions recruiters is fascinating and yet remains a puzzle. Sometimes I feel as if I am making two steps forward and one step backward. 

Having presented sessions on this topic at both IECA and SACAC conferences several years ago, more so than ever, this topic continues to warrant open and productive dialog.

I look forward to hearing about the discussions that will take place in your committee meeting in Toronto.

Best,
Kathie Carnahan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily,</p>
<p>Thank you for your sharing your thoughtful comments and observations. The dynamics between Independent Ed Consultant with both high school counselors and college admissions recruiters is fascinating and yet remains a puzzle. Sometimes I feel as if I am making two steps forward and one step backward. </p>
<p>Having presented sessions on this topic at both IECA and SACAC conferences several years ago, more so than ever, this topic continues to warrant open and productive dialog.</p>
<p>I look forward to hearing about the discussions that will take place in your committee meeting in Toronto.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Kathie Carnahan</p>
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